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The Greenbrier Classic

July 2nd – 5th, 2015

The Old White Course

White Sulphur Springs, W.V.

Par: 70 / Yardage: 7,287

Purse: $6.7 million

with $1,206,000 to the winner

Defending Champion:
Angel Cabrera

by Sal Johnson

Founder, Chief Data Officer, GOLFstats

E-mail me at:
sal@golfstats.com

This week’s field includes:

The field includes 10 of the top 50 in the latest Official World Rankings, with just one player from the top-ten, #3 Bubba Watson. The other top 50 players are #13 J.B. Holmes, #15 Patrick Reed, #18 Louis Oosthuizen, #23 Paul Casey, #24 Kevin Na, #25 Bill Haas, #41 Keegan Bradley, #42 Webb Simpson and #46 Kevin Kisner.

The field includes 9 of the top 25 on the FedEx point standings for 2015.  Those players are #3 Bubba Watson, #7 Patrick Reed, #9 J.B. Holmes, #12 Robert Streb, #14 Kevin Kisner, #16 Paul Casey, #17 Steven Bowditch, #21 Bill Haas and #25 Sangmoon Bae.

The field includes 8 players in the top 25 on this year’s PGA Tour money list. those players are #5 Bubba Watson, #7 J.B. Holmes, #11 Patrick Reed, #14 Paul Casey, #15 Kevin Kisner, #18 Steven Bowditch, #19 Robert Streb and #24 Bill Haas.

The field includes three of the five past champion Scott Stallings (2011), Jonas Blixt (2013) and Angel Cabrera (2014).

A perfect way for fantasy golfers to check on the past performance of all the players in the Greenbrier Classic field is our performance chart listed by average finish.  Another way to check who is the best is through a special formula worked out in Golfstats that gives us the best average performances at the Greenbrier Classic field in the last five years or check out our sortable 8-year glance at the Greenbrier Classic field.

A good cheat sheet is this list of odds from the top bookmakers in England.

Another cheat sheet is this list of odds from the top bookmaker in Las Vegas.

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Time to look at our who’s hot and who isn’t:

Who’s Hot in the field for the The Greenbrier Classic

Player Travelers BMW Intern. U.S. Open FedEx St. Jude Memorial Nordea Masters Byron Nelson Irish Open Colonial BMW PGA Wells Fargo Open de Espana The Players
Kevin Kisner
(210 pts)
DNP DNP T12
(76)
DNP T8
(33.33)
DNP DNP DNP T5
(46.67)
DNP T38
(4)
DNP T2
(50)
Louis Oosthuizen
(183.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP T2
(200)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP WD
(-3.33)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP T69
(0)
Steven Bowditch
(143.67 pts)
T15
(35)
DNP DNP T22
(28)
T52
(0)
DNP Win
(88)
DNP DQ
(-3.33)
DNP T47
(1)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Fabian Gomez
(137.33 pts)
DNP DNP DNP Win
(132)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T27
(15.33)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Paul Casey
(124.17 pts)
2
(100)
DNP T39
(22)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP T43
(4.67)
DNP DNP DNP WD
(-2.5)
Bubba Watson
(116 pts)
Win
(132)
DNP CUT
(-20)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP T42
(4)
Graham Delaet
(114.67 pts)
4
(80)
DNP DNP DNP T26
(16)
DNP T22
(18.67)
DNP T53
(0)
DNP DNP DNP T56
(0)
Seung-Yul Noh
(108.33 pts)
T20
(30)
DNP DNP T3
(90)
CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-5)
Keegan Bradley
(104 pts)
T39
(11)
DNP T27
(46)
DNP T8
(33.33)
DNP T22
(18.67)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-5)
Patrick Reed
(102.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP T14
(72)
DNP T26
(16)
DNP DNP DNP T33
(11.33)
DNP T58
(0)
DNP T24
(13)
George McNeill
(96.17 pts)
DNP DNP CUT
(-20)
T29
(21)
T13
(24.67)
DNP DNP DNP T5
(46.67)
DNP T28
(7.33)
DNP T17
(16.5)
Colt Knost
(95.67 pts)
T39
(11)
DNP DNP T12
(38)
CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T10
(26.67)
DNP T10
(26.67)
DNP T66
(0)
DNP DNP
Robert Streb
(94.67 pts)
DNP DNP T42
(16)
DNP T18
(21.33)
DNP DNP DNP T19
(20.67)
DNP T4
(26.67)
DNP T30
(10)
Jon Curran
(91.33 pts)
T10
(40)
DNP DNP T53
(0)
DNP DNP T6
(40)
DNP T33
(11.33)
DNP 81
(0)
DNP DNP
Greg Owen
(89.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP 2
(100)
DNP DNP T46
(2.67)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
David Lingmerth
(89.33 pts)
T64
(0)
DNP DNP DNP Win
(88)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T33
(11.33)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Jason Bohn
(87.67 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP T29
(21)
T52
(0)
DNP DNP DNP T2
(66.67)
DNP T9
(15)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Rory Sabbatini
(84 pts)
DNP DNP DNP DNP T24
(17.33)
DNP T30
(13.33)
DNP T10
(26.67)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP T6
(30)
Scott Pinckney
(82.67 pts)
T25
(25)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP T2
(66.67)
DNP T65
(0)
DNP T47
(1)
DNP DNP
Carl Pettersson
(81.17 pts)
5
(70)
DNP DNP T40
(10)
T36
(9.33)
DNP T55
(0)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T47
(1)
DNP WD
(-2.5)
Kevin Na
(79.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP T46
(8)
DNP T13
(24.67)
DNP DNP DNP T10
(26.67)
DNP DNP DNP T6
(30)
Michael Thompson
(78.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP T3
(90)
DNP DNP T46
(2.67)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T28
(7.33)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Scott Brown
(75.67 pts)
T54
(0)
DNP DNP T12
(38)
CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T34
(10.67)
DNP T33
(11.33)
DNP T13
(12.33)
DNP T30
(10)
Pat Perez
(73.17 pts)
DNP DNP DNP DNP T57
(0)
DNP DNP DNP T5
(46.67)
DNP T20
(10)
DNP T17
(16.5)
Patrick Rodgers
(65.33 pts)
T39
(11)
DNP DNP T29
(21)
T40
(6.67)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T74
(0)
DNP T2
(33.33)
DNP DNP

How Player Rankings are Computed

Who’s Not Hot in the field for the The Greenbrier Classic

Player Travelers BMW Intern. U.S. Open FedEx St. Jude Memorial Nordea Masters Byron Nelson Irish Open Colonial BMW PGA Wells Fargo Open de Espana The Players
Michael Putnam
(-48.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP CUT
(-20)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T73
(0)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP T58
(0)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Blayne Barber
(-43.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP CUT
(-20)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Andrew Svoboda
(-41.67 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
T57
(0)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Johnson Wagner
(-36.67 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Bill Lunde
(-30 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Roger Sloan
(-30 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP DNP
Justin Leonard
(-28.33 pts)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP CUT
(-5)
Brian Davis
(-28.33 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP T58
(0)
DNP DNP WD
(-3.33)
DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP CUT
(-3.33)
DNP CUT
(-5)
Blake Adams
(-26.67 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP T74
(0)
DNP DNP
Carlos Sainz Jr.
(-26.67 pts)
CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-10)
DNP DNP CUT
(-6.67)
DNP DNP DNP T58
(0)
DNP DNP

How Player Rankings are Computed

The Buzz:

We are getting to the part of the summer in which players have to be very choosey in were they play.  In the next 13 weeks there are 14 events.  But out of those 14 are two majors (British Open & PGA Championship), the WGC-Bridgestone and the four FedEx Cup events.  So that means for every top player, they will try to play in seven events in 13 weeks which is a lot.  So events like this week’s Greenbrier may be a great event to play in, but the top guys have to be smart.  So for Greenbrier, John Deere, Canadian Open, Quicken Loans and Wyndham Championship they can’t possibly get great fields because of that.  So this is a great stretch for those on the bubble to get into the top-125 because fields for these events will go down the list of exemptions and with the Barbasol Championship and the Barracuda Championship lot’s of opportunity to climb up the ladder.

Last year was a perfect example, Geoff Ogilvy was 151st in the FedEx Cup race after the Canadian Open.  Things didn’t look very good for him but he won the Barracuda Championship, which climbed him to 84th which got him into the playoffs.  He missed the cut at the Barclays which dropped him to 100th, right on the bubble to play the next event, the Deutsche Bank Championship.  He was runner-up climbing to 24th, was able to get into the Tour Championship and like that finished the FedEx Cup race 29th on the list.  So anything can happen in the next few weeks.

Talking about the British Open, this will be a great place for four to qualify.  They have to be in the top-20, and the top-four gets the invites.  Of the players in Greenbrier that still haven’t gotten into the British Open are Sangmoon Bae, Daniel Berger, Steven Bowditch, Angel Cabrera, Ben Crane, Erik Compton, Graham DeLaet, Brendon de Jonge, Lucas Glover, James Hahn, Trevor Immelman, Davis Love III, Sean O’Hair, Rory Sabbatini, Heath Slocum, Vijay Singh, Robert Streb, Nick Taylor, Peter Uihlen and Nick Watney.

Tournament information:

Most of the tournaments on the PGA Tour are in major cities across the world.  Of course there are some exceptions to the rule as the Hyundai Tournament of Champions is played in the small community of Kapalua, Maui, the Mayakoba Golf Classic is played in a resort in Mexico, the Puerto Rico Open is in the small town of Rio Grande and the Verizon Heritage is on a small island in South Carolina.  But on the whole most PGA Tour events are played around big cities so that it can draw bigger crowds and getting corporate sponsors easier.

So, in a way, the Greenbrier Classic is an anomaly.  Played in White Sulphur Springs, which is in the Greenbrier County, the total population is just 2,463.  The nearest big city is Roanoke, Virginia if you call 94,000 the population of Roanoke a big city, which is 40 miles from Greenbrier. So the folks that are paying the bills are not looking to attract big crowds to this tournament.

Making things even more intriguing is the fact that the Greenbrier Resort, which has been an American hallmark resort for over 200 years, was almost eliminated just six years ago.  Despite having an elegant facility that catered to big money who liked the reputation of having at least one employee for every guest, in some respects with all of the competition from other resorts the Greenbrier was close to becoming as extinct as some of the dinosaurs that wondered are lands millions of years ago.

But this never happened.  Six years ago when it looked like Marriott was about to buy it, break it up into little pieces and shutter what made this resort famous, a man by the name of Jim Justice came in on a white horse and bought the resort, it’s four courses and 6,500 acres for 20 million dollars by buying the stock of the holding company that owned the debt of the hotel.  It was a bold move by Justice, who was born and bred in West Virginia and is from up the road in Lewisburg.

Now for Justice, $20 million is like pocket change for some of us as he was born to a wealthy family who made their money in coal and farming and Justice made even more money in the 50 business’s that he owns.  But he didn’t stop with spending $20 million, Justice wrote more checks in sprucing up the resort and building the Underground Casino Club that had a star-studded opening this week.

Justice realizes that he needed to promote tourism, and he has gone out of his way big time to do that.  It’s been reported that he spent $80 million on the underground Casino Club and he opened up his checkbook to make sure that the PGA Tour would come to town, not only for this year but for six years.  With this big investment of golf, he will be able to showcase his resort and make it as well know as Pebble Beach was during the U.S. Open or even Kapalua is during the playing of the Hyundai.

After five years, the investment paid off.  The Greenbrier Classic produced a lot of good vibes about the resort and had propelled it to the top of the charts.  The only negative that came out is the field could be better but for many they just love spending fourth of July weekend at the Greenbrier.

Course information:

  • The Old White TPC
  • White Sulphur Springs, W.V.
  • 7,287 yards     Par 35-35–70

Many will remember Greenbrier as the site of the 1979 Ryder Cup matches and the 1994 Solheim Cup matches but both of these were played on the Greenbrier Course, which was originally constructed and opened in 1924 and was redone by Jack Nicklaus in the 70s.  But the course that holds the Greenbrier Classic is the Old White Course, a course design by C.B. MacDonald and Seth Raynor and opened in 1914.

It was the course built at the time for the Old White Hotel, and stood on the grounds between 1858 and 1922.  One of the first golfers to play The Old White was President Woodrow Wilson in April of 1914.  Now many people won’t remember this, but the course first held a PGA Tour event back in 1921 when Jock Hutchison won the White Sulphur Springs Open.  In the 50s, the PGA Tour came back to Greenbrier as in May the Greenbrier Pro-Am was played on the Old White Course as players like Cary Middlecoff, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead and Dutch Harrison were winners.

The course features generous fairways and challenging, undulating putting greens. Every hole has a distinct and well-defined strategy that allows for either a very challenging approach to the green, or one that has less risk, and a higher chance of success.  Many of the holes were design after famous Scottish holes, the 8th hole was styled after the Redan at North Berwick, the 13th after the Alps at Prestwick and the 15th after the Eden at St. Andrews.

Despite not having a regular tour event, a small pro-am was held on the course and over the years most of the famous players of the last 50 years came to play it.  In 2006, the course went through a restoration and today plays at 7,287 yards and to a par of 70.  The course has two par 5s, both of them on the back nine, and it’s always interesting to see if the course holds up as the best players in the world play it.

The only true negative came the first year the event was played.  The course was not tough enough for the pros of the PGA Tour.  Officials knew it, players knew it and when Stuart Appleby finished his round with three straight birdies to shoot 59 and win the event, the whole world knew that the Old White wasn’t up to snuff for the best players in the world.

So with the approval of Greenbrier owner Jim Justice, who again took out his checkbook the course was closed right after that 2010 event.  With the help of renowned architect Tom Fazio,  all the greens were reseeded, one green is new, and new tees have been added to several holes to stretch the course to 7,287 yards, an additional 256 yards.  Fazio not only lengthened several holes, he added and eliminated trees, reshaped fairway bunkers but more importantly brought in rough in the fairways and made sure that the greens were firmer.

Since then the course has played tougher as the best round in the last four years is 61. Yes, there will be a lot of low scoring again, but I don’t see anyone shooting below a 61 with the changes, and I can’t see low scoring.  To show you the difference, the first year the scoring average was 68.536, shot and a half under par.  In 2013, the scoring average was 69.868 which is just a notch below par meaning the course is a shot and a half tougher than the first year.  Or for those wondering, The Old White was the 25th toughest course on the PGA Tour.

Last year the scoring average was 70.101 the first time the course played over par.  The Old White was the 26th hardest course on the PGA Tour.

Here are some of the secrets of what it takes to play well at the Greenbrier Classic:

Key stat for the winner:

Only five events have been played and in looking at the winners, one stat stands out.  That is scrambling which makes sense since the greens at Old White are small and if you miss the green it’s tough to get it up and down.  In 2010 Stuart Appleby was 2nd, getting it up and down 14 of the 15 greens missed.  In 2011 Scott Stallings didn’t do well in that stat but runner-up Bill Haas was second getting it up and down 18 of the 22 greens he missed.  In 2012 Ted Potter, Jr. won the event ranking 9th in scrambling, getting it up and down 16 of 20 times.  In 2014 Jonas Blixt got it up and down 19 of 24 tries, ranking T-3rd.   So look at those that have done well in scrambling this year to do well this week.  Now last year Angel Cabrera ranked T-52nd in scrambling, but it was for a good reason.  That’s because Cabrera led the field in Greens hit, so you can see the reason for the sub-par scrambling rank.

Here are some more key stats to look to for this week:

I know this event has only been played five times, but the tournament still hasn’t seen a winner who led after either the first round, the second round or the third round.  It’s been a come-from-behind haven for this event, with no 54-hole leader yet able to close the deal on the final day. Three of the five winners have come from at least four shots back – Jonas Blixt (2013), Ted Potter Jr. (2012) and Stuart Appleby (2010) while 2011 winner Scott Stallings was one back of Anthony Kim and Cabrera last year was two shots back.

Of the 156 players in the field, only 62 have won on the PGA Tour and only 13 have won a major.  So this could be the week to shine, as was the week for Scott Stallings in 2011, Ted Potter, Jr. in 2012 and Jonas Blixt in 2013.  Look for that eager player ready to finally break out and win for the first time.

Going on the theme that no wins could be an advantage at the Greenbrier, just look at the 36 players that finished 5th or better in the history of the event.  Of the 36, only 13 of them had won on the PGA Tour.  So this may not be the week for those like Davis Love III, Vijay Singh or a Bubba Watson.

The par 4s are some of the best in the country so playing them well is important.  Stuart Appleby was 15 under in his 2010 win, Scott Stalling was 3 under in 2011, Ted Potter Jr. was 10 under in 2012,  Jonas Blixt was 4 under in 2013 while Angel Cabrera was 11 under last year

Is putting important?  For three of the four champions it is as Jonas Blixt was first in 2013 while Stuart Appleby ranked 3rd in number of putts while Ted Potter, Jr. was T3rd in 2012.  As for Scott Stallings he was T53rd in 2011 and last year Angel Cabrera was T-29th.

Weather will play a factor. The tournament will have to dance around a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms all week. Some days, the forecast calls for scattered thunderstorms, a summertime fact of life at White Sulphur Springs.

Also like it is this time of year there could be pop-up thunderstorms in the afternoon.

Who to watch for at the The Greenbrier Classic

Best Bets:

Webb Simpson

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
3 T41 T7 T9 CUT

Been in the top-ten three times in this event, also a great scrambler ranks 21st in that stat this year. Also think he is long overdue for a victory.

Paul Casey

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
First time playing in this event

Playing for the first time, on a role, 6 top-tens in last 11 starts including playoff lose last week at the Travelers.

Cameron Tringale

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T4 T23 T56 T4 CUT

Good moments here with a pair of fourth place finishes, looking for that first win and this is a perfect place to get it.

Best of the rest:

Bubba Watson

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T16 T30

Has a home at Greenbrier, looking to win 2 straight. Question will be if he can overpower this course like he did at the Travelers.

Patrick Reed

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T26 CUT

Another course that he should own, we will see if he can come through.

Bill Haas

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T23 T9 T33 T2

He can play this course as he was runner-up in 2011.

Brendan Todd

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
First time playing in this event

Looking to do better than his T-4th last year, played well over the weekend at Travelers.

Solid contenders

Kevin Kisner

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
CUT CUT CUT

You would think that Kisner would be a great choice at Greenbrier since he ranks 18th in driving accuracy, 68th in greens hit, 14th in scrambling and 11th in making putts inside 10 feet but if past performance says anything he won’t be. Kisner has played three times in the last four years, missing the cut in all three Greenbrier starts. Still he could surprise us all, Kisner is not the same player he was in those three starts and this events seems to help first time winners so look out for Kevin.

Keegan Bradley

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T4 T46 T43

Good play last year, still looking for that spark to get his year back on track.

Tony Finau

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
First time playing in this event

Playing at Greenbrier for the first time, Finau is strong from tee to green but weak around the greens and on them so it could be a bit of a challenge for him. That doesn’t mean he won’t play good this week, Finau has done well on challenging courses like Muirfield Village were he finished T-8th at the Memorial. So look for him to continue his top-25 streak but we will wait and see if he can contend.

David Lingmerth

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T16 T9

Is looking to get back into forum which help him win at Memorial.

Long shots that could come through:

Graham DeLaet

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T30 T12 T45

Can play this course, he is so overdue to win and this event is great for first-timers.

Chad Collins

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T68 T51

Leads scrambling stat this year and looking for that first win.

Will Wilcox

2015 ’14 ’13 ’12 ’11 ’10 ’09 ’08 ’07 ’06 ’05 ’04 ’03
T4

Played great last year, has had a consistent year and could play well again this week.

Comments

  1. Did you miss identifying a player under Lingmerth?? Someone playing the event for the first time?

  2. Mike, No what happened was I my mistake put a space under Lingmerth and the program thought I was doing another player, which I wasn’t, thus putting in a blank entry. Have delated it, thanks for spotting.

  3. haven brown says:

    is there nay way u can find out who plays well in/out of contention after the cut is made/ that would be really benificial? i would still like to the expand the whose not playing well section. thanks for your work

  4. steven englebright says:

    Sal with rain forecast all days.. i’m interested in your opinion regarding the longer hitters and do you think it will be significantly easier to hit and hold wet greens around here..cheers keep up the good work m8

  5. Haven,
    This is really hard to program, I can do stuff like that with the database, but I have to do several queries to get it the way you want. We are always trying to improve things, but to do it on the site so that everyone would understand is hard.

    Steven,
    There is good news and bad on the rain. Yes long hitters will have an advantage, but the rough will be harder to manage. We just don’t know how tough it will be until players tell us, so long hitters will be key, but you have to hit it straight. Best to use the ball striking stat
    http://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.129.html
    which takes a players ranking in both Driving Distance and Accuracy and you have a in-between look at those that do hit it long and straight.

  6. steven englebright says:

    m jones and steve bowditch have been added to open field..in the case of the big fellow he should be able to play freely in the greenbrier now….if he gets sniff early his new found confidence, scrambling stats +length together with the experience of finishing second in the lift clean and place event here in 2013 may make him contender late…………or he may miss the cut and get over to Scotland early…………cheers sal

  7. Danny Lee is the play

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